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Post by Mathew Preston on Jan 6, 2008 12:26:41 GMT -5
Headhunter why should your character be off limit. You have taken other off limit characters for your own advantage. Except they never said they were off limits like I did for mine, so there goes your credibility. If they didn't want other people to use them, they should've said so, and with the loss in starpower due to all these guys leaving, I did what needed to be done to build Kraven up. No there just goes you showing what a dick you really are.
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Post by headhunter on Jan 6, 2008 12:35:36 GMT -5
For the last time, THEY WERE NOT OFF LIMIT CHARACTERS! THEY NEVER SAID "DO NOT USE THIS GUY" OR "DO NOT USE THAT GUY", SO THAT GIVES US THE RIGHT TO USE THEM IF NEEDED! And how the hell else was I gonna build up Kraven? Last I checked, you needed to have stars in order to make them, and since no one said we couldn't use them (not even the guys who controlled them), anyway, the decision was easy, and I made them look good whenever I used them, so what's your problem?
Triple H or Jarrett ways? I've put guys over when necessary, and I've never held anyone back (the only guys I've defended my title against during my IMDbWE title run were guys who weren't here full time [which were the only guys to defend it against really], hardly holding anyone back), so don't even give me that shit. Funny how when Martin Dan does it (and I'm not ragging at Martin Dan, just making a point), it's okay, but when I do it, all you do is bitch, if anyone's politicking here, it's you, because it's you who thinks he can tell everyone what to do around here. Just because I'm not pulling a Kane or Ric Flair when it comes to jobbing, oh "I'm a greedy politician" in your eyes, now I see why several people have had a problem with you in the past, you've gotten in arguments with other people here numerous times before, and now, I can see why.
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Post by Mathew Preston on Jan 6, 2008 12:57:42 GMT -5
It is pretty simple Headhunter, you have put guys over please explain to me who exactly you have put over in this fed. When you debuted your first real feud with against Axl Massario which I will no rip you for but Axl was over enough and a creditable guy around here so yes that got you over enough but then you had to move on to Ganon, Vampire, Hernandez, D-Day, Davis, Collaso when you didn’t need too the only title defence you had against a active member was Tauros. Why didn’t you defend the belt against Iggy or Seth you didn’t have to lose but those facing Headhunter would give them credit and you could have helped make them big but no you choice to just pick of IMDbWE legends piece by piece. Hell you wanted to face Ganon, Collaso, Macarther and D-Day in one match how sad is that when none of these guys are here anymore even Lilnepfew. Your championship reign was just to make you look good not anyone else around you even when it came to losing the belt you didn’t even care about getting your match in what a great way to start Brent’s title reign, When I was champion, when Martindan was champion we followed the same pattern we took one guy and we made them into stars not saying Ganon or Hernandez wasn’t over enough but they were just mid carders and we had long feuds which help benefit both parties not just one.
You talked in the staff lounge of we need to make stars for the future but again were you willing to do it no. Tauros was making Hamilton and Cage the next package by using Hernandez, Me and Jay were trying to make John Molvanni a credible main eventer finally, Martindan was just about to help out Spawn, I been helping Nightmare and Rachel behind the scenes plus I always try and help out Iggy and Seth its not called telling people what to do Headhunter it is called freaking advice they do not need to take it but it helps them out and that is what I am doing. The Fuckers just lost the tag titles to LondonX and what would your next move be would you let them be Headhunter and Freeze no you would of tried to crush them like you have every other superstar around here because when was the last time you lost cleanly to someone who needed it.
Again you go around announcing matches I have not agreed to and I try pm you about it and you ignore me time and time again what do you feel you’re the only guy in this fed or something you want everything handed to you on a plate because you are not willing to get your hands dirty. Kraven didn’t need to beat main eventer after main eventer why couldn’t he feud with a mid carder because that is what every other person in this fed does but no you cannot because your apparently so great for this fed and you re so perfect that you just cannot lose to someone below you. Remind me why wouldn’t you lose to Alex Lackey at Annihilation because he wasn’t over enough or match your standards or it would have been too unbelievable even if he cashed in his MITB after you had a hard fought match but no still not good enough for you why should he be held back because you feel he is not good enough when he is one of the most promising people we have here along with Seth, Rachel, Nightmare they are the people I care about not you.
So I know I have support of people in this fed so regardless of what you say Headhunter I really do not give two shits wheatear you stay or leave it is not sweat of my back. Say what you want about me because you know this is the truth so fucking deal with it.
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Post by martindan on Jan 6, 2008 13:03:34 GMT -5
For the last time, THEY WERE NOT OFF LIMIT CHARACTERS! THEY NEVER SAID "DO NOT USE THIS GUY" OR "DO NOT USE THAT GUY", SO THAT GIVES US THE RIGHT TO USE THEM IF NEEDED! And how the hell else was I gonna build up Kraven? Last I checked, you needed to have stars in order to make them, and since no one said we couldn't use them (not even the guys who controlled them), anyway, the decision was easy. Triple H or Jarrett ways? I've put guys over when necessary, and I've never held anyone back (the only guys I've defended my title against during my IMDbWE title run were guys who weren't here full time [which were the only guys to defend it against really], hardly holding anyone back), so don't even give me that shit. Funny how when Martin Dan does it (and I'm not ragging at Martin Dan, just making a point), it's okay, but when I do it, all you do is bitch, if anyone's politicking here, it's you, because it's you who thinks he can tell everyone what to do around here. How it is me Heads. Tell me. Funny how when it's me? Let me do the check list how I helped people. Outcast I gave a good start here - we began together. We ran with each other. I just continued. He didn't. Not my fault. Ganon - Without me Ganon would never be the legend he is. River - well me and matt started out on the wrong foot. But we worked it out and I gave advices and stuff to him and now he is a good player around here. Massario - I kept the character alive at that point and left it with a good ground. Matt took the ball from there. but it would have been dead hadn't been for me. Ricky Davis - Again I helped him to the top. Not my fault he didn't run with the ball. Mcarter - I helped him with Saint Vampire into a good storyline, he did a no show on me. Not my fault. Besides our feud ended with a superkick to Vampire. tell me how I didn't put him over. Spawn - Again me and Brent got off the wrong track. But I was ready to build him to be a good champion. and for future records, Seth can confirm this, Seth would be my next project. So tell me heads. Where do you see the HHH or Jarrett here? And let me tell you about the offlimit characters. Yes you need starts. But doesn't characters like D-Day, Ganon, Vampire and all the other guys you had a good reign against deserve respect? Unlike you I didn't retain against guys that was not there. Was Massario a star when i was champ? no. Was he around? yes. Was Ganon? No. Was he around. yes. You make yourself a star by make other famous you? well. All I see is uncontrolled guys you have retained against. That is how holding people back. You could have offered some of the lower card players title shots. Good names. no. Could you have made them that. yes. I am not saying I can tell anybody anything. But I will not be compared to HHH and Jarrett or Hogan. yes I have had my ego trips. I admit it. but I was going to make it up (now it's brent I think about) yes. Don't believe me. Ask Brent. He's got a copy of our gameplan. Seth? Ask him as well. I made a deal with him; After our feud Seth would be a main event level player. So. What is my point here? I am not trying to be the boss around here. I can't tell people what to do or not to. But you will respect me and my character. Why. Without me/Vamps there would be NONE IMDBWE to even consider to rebuild. Before you or Matt became the main players here, I kept it alive. So I don't care if Vampire went awol. You will respect that character and not use it. but you did, and hell I even sucked that up, didn't I? So tell me Heads. How is it I am, as you claim?
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Post by Mathew Preston on Jan 6, 2008 13:12:15 GMT -5
Well also about me arguing with people if I remember correctly I have argued with people to do what is best for this place. I argued with Evan oh look how he turned out he fucking has tried to destroy our fed three times now, I argued with Matterofeffort could you really see this guy still being here the way he was and finally I argued with Brent big deal but Brent was the admin of the other site we had now looking back six months I fought for us all to have equal control and where has Brent been the past six months no where so could we really of lived under his leadership no because he wouldn’t of been here.
So don’t give me that crap Hunter.
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Post by Mr. Psycho on Jan 6, 2008 13:21:05 GMT -5
Does the guy who trolled this place have a life?
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Post by tauros6 on Jan 6, 2008 13:25:59 GMT -5
I honestly cannot care less about this. I do not give a shit about who refuses to lose to who. All I know is that I have personally put enough people over and would have continued to do so, I even considered Hernandez losing to Macarther at NOC. So if anyone decides to put my name in this festival of hatred, there we go.
But if this seems like the end, then I propose one last show. One last NOC. We finish things off with a bang.
And no, as stated, he's a sad grade school kid who can't get over a one year grudge.
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Post by Mathew Preston on Jan 6, 2008 13:30:10 GMT -5
I honestly cannot care less about this. I do not give a shit about who refuses to lose to who. All I know is that I have personally put enough people over and would have continued to do so, I even considered Hernandez losing to Macarther at NOC. So if anyone decides to put my name in this festival of hatred, there we go. But if this seems like the end, then I propose one last show. One last NOC. We finish things off with a bang. And no, as stated, he's a sad grade school kid who can't get over a one year grudge. I would not expect you to get involved Tauros it is not your fight but with four main eventers walking out the door I do not know if we can come back from this.
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Post by headhunter on Jan 6, 2008 13:39:53 GMT -5
Once again, they weren't off limit guys. The guys who controlled them never told us not to use them when they left, so therefore, anyone can use them whenever they want to. And D-Day was actually on the active roster, so was Collaso, so unless born2beskinny or lilnepfew say "don't use them", which they never did, people can use them whenever they want, however they want.
And you say I never job? Hmm, just how many guys have you put over during your tag title run? You hardly put anyone over during that entire 5 or so month tag title run, hell, you beat the Cohorts for the tag titles, who were a young and up-and-coming tag team and never gave them so much as a rematch on top of that, yet you never heard me bitch about you not wanting to job, whereas with you, the only way I can get you to not bitch about what I do is if I reduce myself to a Kane or Ric Flair-type jobber and completely sell out my guy's credibility. And again, I haven't done anything guys like Ganon and Martin Dan haven't done before, yet you never bitched about them when they did it. They made themselves to look all powerful like Undertaker, no problem, but when I do it, all you do is bitch. Oh, and about me not jobbing: I could've swore I just lost a Thunderdome match a couple weeks ago clean to Spawn and forced to say "I Quit", which completely buried me (that's the thing with "I Quit" matches, the loser gets buried) and made me lose the title on top of that, yet I never bitched about that. There's just so much stuff I can name that's been going on that I never bitched once about, yet you bitch about every single thing that I do. I never held anyone back, I never refused to job to anyone (since no one asked me to really), so that Triple H or Jarrett argument is mute.
PS, about Freeze: I asked the guy who controlled him on IMDb if I could use him, and he told me I could, so I had full-blown authority to use him as well.
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Post by Mathew Preston on Jan 6, 2008 13:45:34 GMT -5
Once again, they weren't off limit guys. The guys who controlled them never told us not to use them when they left, so therefore, anyone can use them whenever they want to. And D-Day was actually on the active roster, so was Collaso, so unless born2beskinny or lilnepfew say "don't use them", which they never did, people can use them whenever they want, however they want. And you say I never job? Hmm, just how many guys have you put over during your tag title run? You hardly put anyone over during that entire 5 or so month tag title run, hell, you beat the Cohorts for the tag titles, who were a young and up-and-coming tag team and never gave them so much as a rematch on top of that, yet you never heard me bitch about you not wanting to job, whereas with you, the only way I can get you to not bitch about what I do is if I reduce myself to a Kane or Ric Flair-type jobber and completely sell out my guy's credibility. And again, I haven't done anything guys like Ganon and Martin Dan haven't done before, yet you never bitched about them when they did it. They made themselves to look all powerful like Undertaker, no problem, but when I do it, all you do is bitch. Oh, and about me not jobbing: I could've swore I just lost a Thunderdome match a couple weeks ago clean to Spawn and forced to say "I Quit", which completely buried me (that's the thing with "I Quit" matches, the loser gets buried) and made me lose the title on top of that, yet I never bitched about that. There's just so much stuff I can name that's been going on that I never bitched once about, yet you bitch about every single thing that I do. I never held anyone back, I never refused to job to anyone (since no one asked me to really), so that Triple H or Jarrett argument is mute. PS, about Freeze: I asked the guy who controlled him on IMDb if I could use him, and he told me I could, so I had full-blown authority to use him as well. Again Headhunter it all comes down to respect you turned there wrestlers in jokes and oh wait did I give The Cohorts proberly the best match of their life did I just lose to LondonX in proberly there best match of their life. I am not calling myself god around here but I am not bringing back legends to beat, I am facing guys who are actually here and now. Again I dont need you to tell me what I have done, I can pretty much do that myself. I know that people back me after I got voted Royal Battle winner this year so I dont need to be told people dont like me here. EDIT: On top of that you lost to Spawn what do you want a medal because it just says Spawn def. Headhunter. I did not see any match or feud before hand that put him over or anything so yeah great job their champ good one I am so glad for you and your one lost in the past 12 months.
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Post by martindan on Jan 6, 2008 13:52:13 GMT -5
Once again, they weren't off limit guys. The guys who controlled them never told us not to use them when they left, so therefore, anyone can use them whenever they want to. And D-Day was actually on the active roster, so was Collaso, so unless born2beskinny or lilnepfew say "don't use them", which they never did, people can use them whenever they want, however they want. And you say I never job? Hmm, just how many guys have you put over during your tag title run? You hardly put anyone over during that entire 5 or so month tag title run, hell, you beat the Cohorts for the tag titles, who were a young and up-and-coming tag team and never gave them so much as a rematch on top of that, yet you never heard me bitch about you not wanting to job, whereas with you, the only way I can get you to not bitch about what I do is if I reduce myself to a Kane or Ric Flair-type jobber and completely sell out my guy's credibility. And again, I haven't done anything guys like Ganon and Martin Dan haven't done before, yet you never bitched about them when they did it. They made themselves to look all powerful like Undertaker, no problem, but when I do it, all you do is bitch. Oh, and about me not jobbing: I could've swore I just lost a Thunderdome match a couple weeks ago clean to Spawn and forced to say "I Quit", which completely buried me (that's the thing with "I Quit" matches, the loser gets buried) and made me lose the title on top of that, yet I never bitched about that. There's just so much stuff I can name that's been going on that I never bitched once about, yet you bitch about every single thing that I do. I never held anyone back, I never refused to job to anyone (since no one asked me to really), so that Triple H or Jarrett argument is mute. PS, about Freeze: I asked the guy who controlled him on IMDb if I could use him, and he told me I could, so I had full-blown authority to use him as well. Respect me and answer me Heads. I don't care if you make yourself all powerful. My issue with you is you bring me into a discussion where you place me as all powerful. Yes I have done that. but check my checklist again and see how many people I have created. Now anaswer me and tell me. How is it I am
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Post by Rachel M Elly on Jan 6, 2008 13:57:37 GMT -5
But if this seems like the end, then I propose one last show. One last NOC. We finish things off with a bang. Does this mean the end of IMDbWE? Also, why don't we just go to that other IMDbWE site. Wouldn't that work.
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Post by Mathew Preston on Jan 6, 2008 14:02:56 GMT -5
But if this seems like the end, then I propose one last show. One last NOC. We finish things off with a bang. Does this mean the end of IMDbWE? Also, why don't we just go to that other IMDbWE site. Wouldn't that work. If you new guys want to keep it going I will help and fully support you but losing four main eventers creates a big dent.
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Post by tauros6 on Jan 6, 2008 14:03:18 GMT -5
The problem is that we have lost so much of the PPV history, the show history, most of the profiles, etc. The lot of us have spent so much work only for it to be deleted, that it's hard to regroup.
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Post by headhunter on Jan 6, 2008 14:07:30 GMT -5
Personally, I don't know, nor do I care. I was planning on having matches with Freeze, Kraven, LondonX, and maybe Cage after NoC, all of whom I planned on having Headhunter put over, but now, it looks like that won't be happening.
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